Jehovahs Witnesses

2008-08-07T15:15:00.000-07:00

Response to first post by Daren

Let us turn to the greatest of all books, the Bible. In it we are told that at the end of the world there would be a great war whose final battle is called “Armageddon”. You may have been taught that this battle will take place on the outside, as races battle races, and nations battle nations. It doesn't mean communism against democracy or socialism against capitalism. There will always be wars and conflicts; but the battle of Armageddon is the battle of ideology. This battle does not take place on the outside, but within each and every individual.

If you really understood what was taking place and knew your scripture, you would rejoice at the unrest on the outside. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I have come not to bring peace but a sword; to set a man against his father; a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, for a man's foes are those of his own household.” This certainly does not mean our children will be pitted against us, but that the true understanding of the Word of God is pitted against the traditions of men. Living by structures built by tradition, we have believed that by them we could earn the kingdom of heaven and acquire merit. But when one who has experienced the story of God tells you that the life of Jesus Christ is everyone's spiritual autobiography, this truth causes a conflict within the individual - and that is the battle of Armageddon.

Neutrality is impossible. You cannot attach the new cloth to the old; it is all or nothing. You cannot put the new wine you are receiving into the old bottle, by being willing to go along with this new idea to a certain point, but not being willing to give up your belief in an external God, to whom you bend your knee and cross your body when you stand before what represents him on the wall. So the battle rages until the story of Jesus Christ unfolds within you; and then the war is over, for from that moment on you will have no other god, only he whose name is I AM. I tell you: the story of Jesus Christ is your spiritual autobiography. One day his story will unfold within you and you will know there is no other, only God.

Today when you see the disturbance the young people are causing - not only in our country but all over the world - see it as a symbol of the tremendous eruption of truth taking place in the hearts of men. It is not just confined to this platform, for the picture is worldwide. There is an enormous eruption of truth against the entrenched traditions of men going on right now, even in atheistic China and in lands which are not considered Christian; but truth is not confined to space or time. Truth is only confined to God.

Religion, in the true sense of the word, is devotion, and at times an exalted reality for the one experiencing it. When you have experienced scripture, you will never again return to your little bottle. Our world is filled with men who are supposed to speak the word of God, yet are deeply involved in the shadow world. They are telling our government what to do and how to do it, not telling the individual about God's promise to give himself to the individual in a literal sense. I tell you: God is going to give his son to you; and because he and his son are one, he gives you himself. Believe me and hope for your eruption now, for when it comes, you will realize that everything which appears to be taking place on the outside, is nothing more than a shadow, cast by God. So when you see the young pitted against the old, rejoice, for they are fulfilling scripture. We may resent being taxed to rebuild the buildings the young burn down, but the eruption is taking place in us as the new idea replaces the old.

No more will I be bound to an external God. I no longer believe in an external Jesus Christ, for the Christ in me who is my hope of glory, awoke and unfolded his story - not as another for me to observe, but as myself. He redeemed me by becoming me, to the point where everything said of him I have experienced. That is the new idea which has replaced my old concept that I learned from my mother, Sunday school, and church. I lived by that structure until one day I knew it was not truth. Then the battle between truth and error began. It may seem to be on the outside, but it is all taking place within.

He comes, not to bring peace but a sword, and he is followed by the armies of heaven. From his mouth a sharp sword is issued. It is the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God. He does not bring a sword to chop people's heads off with. The sword is only a symbol. When John the Baptist was beheaded, John - wearing everything that is external to man - died, and the Lord Jesus Christ rose in his place. When your head is symbolically removed, you have received the sign that you no longer give power to external things. Then the inner you will rise and supplant your outer self. The rising of this inner you has a disturbing influence, for everything you believed in and bowed to on the outside must die.

Formerly I worshiped a man because he was known, rich, or intelligent; then I discovered that the one who is the Being of beings, the God of gods, was my very self. Then He began to awaken in me, as I learned to overcome everything external to myself. And as I did, I realized that I was the cause of the phenomena of my life. I accepted this fact one-hundred percent and he fulfilled his promise: “To him who conquers I will give the Morning Star.” Then he identified himself as the morning star, saying: “I am the root and the offspring of David. I am the bright morning star,” the symbol of the new day and immortality. When God reveals himself to you, as you, your world changes; and when your little garment which has housed the old beliefs, is taken off, it will be for the last time. Then you will be clothed in the new man, as the man who rose from within and repeated the entire story of the Lord Jesus Christ, in detail.

Armageddon is not a place in the battlefields of the world. Battles are fought as the new supplants the old. America is a new nation compared to Europe and has now supplanted the old powers. That was one grand eruption. Today, America is the mightiest power in the world of Caesar; but in the midst of it we find the young pitted against the old. In the 10th chapter of the Book of Matthew, he begins with a man against his father, then a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, as the young try to dislodge the old. As this happens in you, the world will reflect your conflict.

Everything must be interpreted as a symbol, in this world as well as in your dream world. A lady shared this dream with me recently. In it she had a twin sister who died. Loving her twin so much, she pretended she was her; thereby receiving her mother's affection; yet she knew the role she had assumed. This is a perfect story of scripture. Jacob supplanted his brother Esau in the affection of his father. Coming second, Jacob thought his father would love the first-born most, not knowing (as the world does not know) that the first-born of every creature is the same first-born, but the firstborn from the dead is seen in the order of events, rather than in time.

Everyone within whom the story of Jesus Christ erupts is the firstborn. No one comes before you, because Christ is first. He is the head, and if Christ unfolds within you, he supplants the body you wear, which came into the world first. The physical is first. The spiritual comes second and supplants Esau - the outer man. Jacob - the inner, smooth-skinned man - is spirit. And the Lord loved Jacob and hated Esau. The outer man must be discarded, because flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom; so the inner man must be born. And when he does, he is the first-born from the dead in the order, rather than in time.

The one who is to be born of the spirit must first be awakened. Coming out, he is the one the lord loves, because he is one with him and is given the bright morning star. God, himself, is the bright morning star who gives it - so God gives himself! And there is no one but God from then on, as you control all; and when you take off this garment of flesh, you are one with the God who runs the entire show. Seen from above, this conflict is not disturbing; rather it is a time for rejoicing, for the eruption of truth has begun in the hearts of men. But on this level, as a tax payer, you may resent the burning of buildings and the inability of those who desire an education to get it, because of a small group who do not know what they are doing.

They are only symbols, playing their little games; so Father forgives them; they are only a symbol of the eruption which is taking place in the hearts of men. There is always a remnant erupting, and the symbol of this eruption appears on the outside.

The first creative act was motion: “The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep.” As God moved, everything erupted, and the world became visible. You moved into the awareness of your true husband, which is the Lord God Almighty, whose symbol is your earthly husband, who you love and share your world with. You moved within yourself into the real union with God, who is your husband - as told us in the Book of Isaiah: “Your Maker is your husband, the Lord of Host is his name.” You have now moved into a real relationship with the God within you, who left everything to cleave to you. And you have discovered the great secret of moving from state to state. You will find that your love for your earthly husband will grow stronger. When you first met, you were fired by sex, and - if the love has maintained as it was prior to the union - when sex fades, you will find your relationship growing deeper. You will be more concerned for each other, as a deeper love takes over. Now, the motion took place within you, and you have moved from what is a relationship in this world, to a spiritual relationship, as the story of Jesus becomes your spiritual autobiography.

Do not look at the conflict on the outside as terrible; rather see it as a symbol. Rejoice when you see the youth pitted against the old, as it signifies that the Word - which is the sword of the Spirit - has erupted; and the armies of heaven are on the march, as the Living Word which unfolds within man, interprets the external word of the letter. The outer world - like the letters in the Bible - is dead, and remains so until something that is alive gives it life. Only when that which is life itself erupts, does the Bible's dead letter become alive. I have experienced scripture, and when I see the conflict, I know that many have accepted my words and are experiencing them. As long as I wear this mask I do not know where they are, but I do know they are telling the story of salvation from experience. That is the only thing that can inflame the mind.

The traditions of men are only dead letters. Our clergy are not telling the word of God, they are too involved in politics, thinking they can buy off the eruption with money. You can't stop ransom or blackmail, but you can tell the story of Jesus Christ from experience - but the clergy do not know it. If they heard what you have tonight, they would think my words were blasphemy; yet I am telling you what I have experienced, while they speak from theory. That is all right, for they are part of the story. “For the sake of the traditions of your fathers you have made void the word of God.” Religion has created saints out of nothing, for they never existed. Now something is happening to force them to confess to their nonexistence, even though they have made hundreds of millions of dollars in the selling of these little icons. They will still sell them, because there are people who will still want their little so-called protection based upon the outside. But you don't want them; that's why you are here. You are willing to believe the drama is unfolding in you and not on the outside. So when a horrible blow hits your heart, try to see its symbolism, as everything in the outer world is a symbol. Why and how did it happen and what does it mean? What is the significance of the thing that happened? Just like a dream, everything has some significance, for God is speaking; therefore you would listen attentively and try to understand what he is saying in symbolism.

It is still a closed book to those who have not experienced scripture, but it will be understood by those who are drawn by the one who had the experience. I have shared my experiences with you, in the hope that in the not distant future you will individually experience the entire story of Jesus Christ. So when you see the unrest today, rejoice that the young is now pitted against the old. And remember: the conflict is in your imagination. Although I have overcome the world, as the drama has proved, I may find myself listening to the radio or watching television and get involved. I do it by forgetting and coming down into the nonsense in this world. Then I must get back up on the mountain and see it as symbolism, telling me what is happening within.

The eruption will not go on forever. It only lasts for a certain length of time and then the door to heaven is closed once more. The door does not remain open, but only opens at intervals of time. Blake says it is every two hundred years, but how long it remains ajar he does not say. Now you see why the conflict rages - because the door is still ajar.

What I am telling you tonight could not be printed in tomorrow's paper as it doesn't make sense, but it is true. People may doubt my words and say; “Why listen to him, the man is mad and has a devil.” But I say to you: “I am not mad and I do not have a devil, for what I tell you is true. I speak not of my own accord, but as the Father speaks to me.” I have actually experienced the entire drama recorded in scripture, and have shared my experiences with you. With my limited background, you may question how I have such learning; but the words are not mine, they are the words of him who sent me - and he who sent me is God. He is my Father. I know my Father and you know not your God. I may be considered mad by some, because my background can be checked; yet I dare to claim I am the son of God and I and my Father are one. So when you see me you see him who sent me. I was sent by my Father, and - knowing the Old Testament - I have shared with you my spiritual interpretation of its dead letter; for the entire scripture has unfolded in me.

Armageddon is the battle of ideologies, where belief is pitted against belief. I can't tell you how shocked I was to discover that the Christ to whom I prayed was within me. Scripture teaches, “Christ in you is the hope of glory,” but I didn't take that statement literally, for I was taught to look for Christ on the outside. I could find no conflict in that Christ.

I cannot tell you of the shock that comes when all of the beliefs by which you have lived come tumbling down. You will no longer be able to turn to anyone on the outside to praise or blame for what is taking place in your world. If it is unlovely, you are its cause. If it is lovely, you are its cause. Everything unfolds within you, and you are detached from what takes issue; yet you know you are its cause, for as the word of truth erupts within you, it sets one against the other. The word is not confined; but when it comes - as it has in me - I bring the new wine which the old bottle cannot contain. The old garment of belief is ripped and you cannot put a new patch on an old garment. As the world erupts around us, we may wonder what is taking place and ask ourselves if we have lost control of our children, as they are so different now.

We can say all kinds of things, justify our actions and beliefs - that is our right. On occasion I find myself sucked into the same stream and pass an opinion not based upon the truth that has erupted within me; so I can't judge another. I can only say; when you see these things, rejoice, for He has come. His coming brings a new idea, which will disturb the traditions of men; and - living by man's traditions - you will see the disturbance on the outside, but it is in you.

The world reflects this disturbance, and those in the world are being led like sheep to the slaughter. Yet in the hearts of those who observe it from above, it is cause for rejoicing, as they wait only for the eruption of God's immortal plan. Jesus Christ is this immortal pattern of salvation. Its eruption in man causes an eruption in the outer world, as the young is set against the old, and the new conflicts with the traditions of men.

In the meanwhile, take what you know of this law, and use it towards your own personal good fortune in the world of Caesar. It's simple. Go to the end and assume the feeling of the wish fulfilled. Don't ask anyone to help you. Ask no one if it is right. If you like it, assume you have it. Remain faithful to your assumption, and that Being who is going to erupt in you will take you to that end. If you find yourself moving from your fulfilled desire, go back to it, and once more assume the feeling of the wish fulfilled. Do this and your assumption will harden into fact.

Jehovah's Witnesses War Mongers

2008-08-07T13:16:00.000-07:00

Jehovah's Witnesses cause Armageddon's Day? How?
Jehovah's Witnesses cause Armageddon's Day? How?
Many believe that by threatening the end of the world, this act gives power to that reality, allows it to become a possibility. How? By the fear this creates by the uncertainty of who would survive such a war, who would deserve to survive, who is right and whose wrong, this keeps people arguing and creates religious differences. Thus creating the real problem that we see, many angry people hating each other. The ingredients for a world war!! If we have no hate or fear we are free of the fear of fear.
Until some one stirs up that fear in us again with some threatening words. And threatens us personally with some form of evil. We have a right NOT to hear what we don't want to hear. Or not to see what we don't want to see. Those who force their beliefs on to us, force their will on us. "Be like us or die!" Whose going to kill us? Not them personally they use god only to carry out their threats. But still they create real anger in the real world and real threats are made. So real action may well be taken against them for real. Indeed their prediction about such acts are the very means that they plan to have used in order to have it work out the way they predict for it. It's the easiest way to tell not just someone, but everyone, what you plan to do, is to predict it to them for years.
They threaten us with gods anger and wrath upon us all. They do so in order to try to have god display this anger and pick off those who make this world an evil place. Leaving only the good, the ones god accepts. So on that day the truth can be seen clearly by all, so they tell us. Those who are alive are good, while the bad die for their unrepentant ways.
But those who threaten violence against others, or create war games, will be amongst those who are no longer needed in such a world of peace. So no more threats of the end of the world from anyone, as those threatening it will be silenced forever. No more war threats ever from anyone, ever again. Or messages of Doom.
Jehovah's Witnesses must be banned they have to be stopped. They threaten us with war and destruction. It is their own threats of war that will cause their OWN destruction, the war against them. Their message and threats create the possibility and the circumstances needed to make that possible future, which they threaten us with to begin to become as real as their threatening it to be. It's why they must be banned, they are asking for it, quite literally. By predicting it WILL happen. They are like an invading army with no defences. But threatening a very real attack. Nothing except their lawyers and money to fight back with. Oh yes REAL POWER, lawyers and money.
Eventually they will have to realise god will not kill everyone but god will teach everyone. "Every pupil perfectly instructed WILL be like his master" Jehovah's Witnesses MUST change their ways. "The 11 hour workers will be happy to see they did get paid the same as all the other workers." These "quotes" are from some of Jehovah's Witnesses literature. How annoyed the Witnesses will be to learn the death toll is not so high as they expected?
And Jehovah's Witnesses must stand down as a religious organisation. Give up their preaching of doom and preach only a message of peace to the world. And maybe eventually even one of security. But their message MUST change to Armageddon's day as being past tense. IF NO ONE DIES after that, after that date, except for those who do die. People die every day. From then Jehovah's Witnesses are no longer a threat, and from their own mouth we shall have gods blessing on us all, for not having died at his hand. And no armies at all. Only a world police Force.
Threats from one religion to another is no game, it's like creating a powerful war cry. Maybe the Muslims are the ones who use suicide bombers, but against the "infidel" the false believer and against the other religions! The REAL problem is not the terrorists, but the fact that ALL religion is what feed this drive for terror. Their way being better. While the returned threats from their enemies, the other religions are feeding that warring spirit ever onward. RELIGION causes the problem!! Remove religion, and we can purify our understanding of gods will for us, by taking away all REAL threats of all REAL wars. Any threat of war cannot come from a true religious believer to another human, in such a peaceful future, war doesn't exist. Now perhaps it can happen but not then, not in a world of peace. But then with 1 world government. With only 1 army who are we fighting against? Every conquering army knows to win any war ALL your enemies must die. So death to all who don't believe in the idea of peace, in the idea of 1 new world order, with NO army just a police force to keep the law. All soldiers will die or retire. He who takes a weapon will truly die by that weapon. All soldiers are suicide cases. People willing to die to protect against, against what? ....against people who are willing to die for their country or beliefs, in battle against "us." So who are we this "us" A united world? Or separate nations and religions?
Without peace we are all criminals, in this our prison, planet earth. In our hellish prison we are all held captives here. Yet we would be released instantly if we lived in a world of peace, one where we had just 1 world government, where the very word "war" was one that you needed to look up, just in order to understand even what it means at all. But here we are, we do understand that word. So we need to remove the need for us to understand such a word. Or we are stuck here.
In order to prevent this cold war from becoming a very real hot war. Jehovah's Witnesses by the year 2012 will stand down as a religious organisation and stop preaching all messages of doom on planet earth. There after, they will have to teach that world peace has begun on earth. Doing so for 1000 years, also they must teach that the rule of Christ has started on that date, when his rule will be operating through his representative on earth, as the world president or leader, the one who will be in true power over all the earth. Gods spokes person or representative on this earth. And all future dates that Jehovah's Witnesses will count, start from this new age, from 0000 NWO (The New World Order) instead of 2013AD. Then 2014AD will be the new year 0001 N.W.O. for them.
The real people who are really annoyed by Jehovah's Witness's preaching, really do want them banned. So they really will try to get rid of them. And it really will happen. So really be prepared. while Jehovah's Witnesses try to take over the world in 2012, what will you be doing? So see you on the flip side. If your there be fair in order to stay there. And may the force be with you. If nothing happens we are still where we are now, under threat of war from someone sometime. If it creates peace for all the world, how can it be bad?